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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:37 pm

Jesus fucking christ you guys gave me a lot to come back to. Fortunately Leiter is speaking my mind, and unfortunately I can't say it any better.


Leiter wrote:

I would advocate against having it be an RP supergroup at all. Leave it as a generic supergroup and let it be what it be, if you will. If they want the RP aspects of being in the Sixth Column, then they can join the Sixth Column. If anything, I think this should just be a plain old supergroup, that is affiliated with us and run by us, to get people to know us and to get them interested in other things we do; ie, the Sixth Column.

This. This is what this will be.

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We don't WANT a second Sixth Column (I don't
think) and we don't want people necessarily looking at this second
group and saying "Oh look, it's the Sixth Column some more." Part of
the whole point of this was to get people to put their door in a place
that we can put our foot in it, so to speak. If they automatically
associate this new group with the Sixth, they might as well just be
noticing the Sixth. If it's something else, however, with an
interesting enough name that they say, "Huh, that's a cool name, wonder
what the people in that supergroup are like," that gets them interested
in us, which we use to put our foot in their now-conveniently-placed
door.

This too.

Peace wrote:
A bunch of nonroleplayers ROLEPLAYING (it was
almost like a slap to roleplayers, specially since we not only did it
BETTER than most rpsgs but we had more FUN cause it was a big joke).

I distinctly do not remember this. You're ideal, what you, Blade, Heretic, and Light or who ever made, was YOUR deal, not The Sixth Column's. Maybe this is what you guys did, but I've been around just as long as you if not longer, and remember absolutely non of this.

Peace wrote:

Also keep in mind its not a Liberty
supergroup anymore. Its a Virtue supergroup. You have to have some
elements of roleplay, because its a roleplay server and thats what
apeals to the masses.

Think about what little new members have
joined since the move to Virtue, they were ALL looking for a roleplay
experience. You don't wanna do that anymore? Move to freedom and make
Column Paragon, or whatever the hell else you wanna name it.

I can vouch for the faultiness of this statement. Me and Karnie are in one of the largest most active groups on the server, and they are completely anti-roleplay. There are PvPers, RPers, PVEers, there is everyone, and I honestly think you are highly overestimating how 'essential' it is to roleplay your heart out 24/7, simply because it is Virtue, the unofficial RP server.

Peace wrote:
So what your saying is you want to make a
supergroup that isnt the Sixth Column to attract people who weren't
interested in the Sixth Column.

Absolutley not. What we are saying is we want to make a supergroup that isn't The Sixth Column to get more friends and fun, and perhaps, if they'd like, recruit them into the real SG as more than just a recruit.

Peace wrote:
Come join the Sixth Column and be awesome. O,
your not sure about the requirements? Fine join this group we've made
specially for you so you can see how awesome we are."
"O you see now and wanna make a nacht to be part of the real group? Ok awesome!!"

Pretty sure that's exactly what your plan is, a trap to get them into a SG meant to do nothing BUT recruit.

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Look my whole insentive was to have a seperate SG that Leiter and I have basically put out on the field; A group people who wouldn't mind being in it because it was a well run-easy going supergroup. (And of course a new Base for Leiter to trick out).

But we are running it, and what does that entail? That entails new acquaintances and new friendships, and with these new acquaintances and friendships comes to "Hey man you should really think about joining this group, this is the one we play most of the time, we'll totally help you out, a uniform is required but we'll set you up with a secondary costume" blah blah blah, and a whole thing we can work out. If they say they aren't interested, so be it, we'll see them in Coalition.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:55 pm

@Twig: Exactly.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:43 am

I just believe this was a step to recruiting and allowing non-Sixth wannabes to join a sixth organization without having any requirements.

What exactly is the purpose of having this SG in the first place if it isn't to orchestrate a recruiting basis?

Second, if we go with this SG, it has to be either directly involved with Sixth, or it won't be a part of it, just an organization we wanted to create for more recruiting....

Now, here are some choices you have to determine the best.

First, are we naming it directly related to the Sixth Column, then it needs to be something a long the line like other SGs use as an academy like name.

The Sixth Column Reserves, Mercenaries, The Sixth Core, The Sixth Mercenaries. Or something like that.


Or we can have it linked to the Sixth but nothing that leads it to affiliated.

Something like, The Faction was. A sixth affiliated SG but on red side on Liberty..
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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:01 am

I agree with Killa on the name, completely. Column Paragon might be TOO different, even by a little. The Sixth Core, something like that, really sounds cool and obviously related to us without being related to say, The 5th Column

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:50 am

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Second, if we go with this SG, it has to be either directly involved with Sixth, or it won't be a part of it, just an organization we wanted to create for more recruiting....

What's with the 'this or that' black and white mentality, guys? I see no reason why the new group can't be both a place for us to keep alts and meet new people, AND a place to recruit for the 6C. Like Twig said,

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...we are running it, and what does that entail? That entails new acquaintances and new friendships, and with these new acquaintances and friendships comes to "Hey man you should really think about joining this group, this is the one we play most of the time, we'll totally help you out, a uniform is required but we'll set you up with a secondary costume" blah blah blah, and a whole thing we can work out. If they say they aren't interested, so be it, we'll see them in Coalition.

Also, remember that I made up Column Paragon on a whim in the middle of a post. I'm not married to the name.

What I DO want in a name, however, is something that sounds cool, will get people's attention without IMMEDIATELY realizing that it's affiliated with us, and mostly, a name that is cool enough and interesting enough that people will want to have it displayed over their character.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:33 pm

I never said it can't be both lol.

I was just saying, is this SG going to be a part of the Sixth organization, or is the SG going to be on its own, but has relation to the Sixth?

maybe that will explain what I was really trying to say...
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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:30 pm

"THE SIXTH COLUMN GONE BADASS!"
The Sixth Column but now we're badasses

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:36 pm

haha
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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:49 pm

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:51 pm

you know you love it too killa Razz
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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:04 pm

Anyways, sorry about that mishap, but this part of the discussion is over. So.
Lets pick on a name and agree with it. I think The Sixth Sense is fantastic.

Jk,

But I think The Sixth _____
Should be fine, something different enough to not be related to The 5th Column, pretty much. Brb, Ganna read some badge titles for inspiration.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:25 pm

This is a minor point, but I vote for no 'The'.

Just 'Sixth Core' or 'Sixth Reserve' sounds better than 'The Sixth Core'.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:38 pm

Sure why not? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:24 pm

So, possible names:

Sixth Core
Sixth Mercenaries
Sixth Reserve
Sixth Auxiliary
Sixthmen
Sixth Heroes
Sixth Brace
Sixth Legion


Personally, I'm leaning towards Sixth Core. Any others people want to put out there, or should I make a poll?

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:15 pm

Funny twig, I remember when someone cryed when someone did that on the old forums...and if you don't think your going to pay you are SO wrong. it's also funny that you say I edited your post since I CANT!

I don't like one like Sixth Reserves or something like that, because it would make it seem more like a alt sg rather than both.

I like Sixthmen since it sounds like Watchmen and that makes us look like were super hero buffs Very Happy . Sadly I don't think many others would like it.

Honestly I'd go for Sixth Mercenaries or Sixth Heroes, something that when concept of the group is explained, the name reinforces it. I've always just said Mercenaries for its military aspect.

Maybe Sixth Avengers...always been a fan of The Avengers, or Sixth Legends(actually this sounds like a badass name for a crossover group(one we make in a different game)).
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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:40 am

Peace, I went to reply to you and instead of reply, for some ungodly reason I went to edit your post, and unknowingly typed my whole reply erasing yours. Dunno how it happened, really, but I think it was really funny, and I never said you edited MY posts Razz. If you think I'm the type of person to fight back like THAT, then, well you're kinda wrong, and I have nothing to fear, you live in Memphis. (I lol'd at your edit, good stuff)


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Doo do doo.

Sixth Core has a badass ring to it, but I'm also kind of digging Sixth Legion.
Sixth Mercenaries isn't going to happen, too cliche, way too overused. Sixthmen and Sixth Avengers also sounds great, and I think people would actually really like Sixthmen. Let's narrow this down.

Sixth Heroes
Sixth Core
Sixth Legion
Sixthmen
Sixth Avengers

And yeah, this should definitley become a poll topic now.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:48 am

On my way.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:03 pm

Twig wrote:
Peace, I went to reply to you and instead of reply, for some ungodly reason I went to edit your post, and unknowingly typed my whole reply erasing yours. Dunno how it happened, really, but I think it was really funny, and I never said you edited MY posts Razz. If you think I'm the type of person to fight back like THAT, then, well you're kinda wrong, and I have nothing to fear, you live in Memphis. (I lol'd at your edit, good stuff)

Well then this has been a huge misunderstanding hu?

O well, as long as you learned your lesson, remember what the back button on the internet does!
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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:38 pm

Peace wrote:
learned your lesson
lol

And I tried that Razz

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:42 pm

Yeah...
btw I demand you change your avatar...simply cause I couldn't find that one when I was looking for it, though I've used the fire keywork since 2003 as an avatar lol
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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:05 pm

He's got a point.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:40 pm

What the fuck, i didn't even realize we both had keyworks lawl.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:02 pm

O well...you know I'm getting a tattoo of that for my graduation present right?
I'm either putting it over my heart or the xXx spot on my neck...I had an idea to do a Keywork with six pillars behind it, but I couldn't find a way of making it look right
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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:54 pm

Is also, getting a Keywork. When and where, not sure.

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PostSubject: Re: New old idea   Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:22 pm

...If I could somehow design a tattoo of that symbol with six pillars behind it, would you still get it?

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